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C00016 00004		Requests for Copies of RLL / MRS
C00019 00005			Requests for RLL System
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People who expressed an interest in RLL during AAAI demo, August 1980.

Scott Bleackley
Computing Science Program
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, British Columbia V5A 1S6

Adrian Walker
Bell Laboratories
600 Mountain Avenue
Murray Hill, New Jersey 07974

Walt Scacchi
ICS
Room 444 CS
Irvine, CA 92717

Gordon Novak, Jr.
Computer Science Department
University of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712
	[CSD.NOVAK@SCORE]

Dr. Henry J. Bowlden
Computer Sciences
Westinghouse R & D Center
1310 Beaulah Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA 15235

John H. Blackwood
School of Engineering (Computer Science)
California State University
6000 J Steet
Sacramento, CA 95819

Fumio Mizoguchi, Ph.D.
Department of Ind. Admin.
Tokyo University of Science
Noda 278, Chiba
Japan


Dr Sigekoto Kaihara
Department of Industrial Administration
Tokyo University of Science
Noda, Chiba 278
Japan
	[Kaihara@SUMEX]

Steven Hokanson
312 Fitzwater Street
Philadelphia, PA 19147

Peter Wang
P.O. Box 8897
Stanford, CA 94305

Rdoger Knaus
Graphics Software Branch
Systems Development Division
Bureau of the Census
Washington, D.C. 20233

Sandy Nado
CCS
University of Michigan
2076 rieze Bldg.
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109

Robet A. Nado
CCS
University of Michigan
2076 Frieze Bldg.
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109

Casey Quayle
1360 Scaife Hall
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260
	[QUAYLE@SUMEX]

David Braunstein
General Electric Co.
Bldg. 500
Computer Graphics Software
Evendale, OH

Reed Letsinger
Heuristic Programming Project
Computer Science Department
Stanford University
	[CSD.LETSINGER@SCORE]

Alan Lemmon, W-709
Mitre Corporation
1820 Dolley Madison Blvd.
McLean, VA 22102

Robert C. Meacham
P.O. Box X, Bldg. 4500-N, MS255
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Oak Ridge, TN 37830

Scott Siegel
Rand D Associates
4640 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA

Mark B. Mueller
Bell Laboratories
Room 2B501
Crawford Corners Road
Holmdel, N.J. 07733
Peter Midford
Harvey Mudd College
Claremont, Ca 91711

Steve Greenberg
P.O. Box 262
Menlo Park, Ca 94025

Aaron Gordon
Dept. of Computer Sciences
University of Wisconsin
1210 W. Dayton
Madison, WI 53706

Milt Waxman
Hughes
13220-G Admiral Avenue
Marina del Rey, Ca 90291

Kirk Kandt 
Hughes Research Labs
3011 Malibu Canyon Road
Malibu, CA 90265
	[KANDT@USC-ECL]

Yoram Alperovitch
6271 Variel Avenue
Woodland Hills, CA 91307

Stephen Y. Itoga
3015 Kahaloa Drive
Honolulu, hawaii 96822

David Keirsey
Hughes Research Labs
3011 Malibu Canyon Road
Malibu, CA 90265
	[KEIRSEY@USC-ECL]

[Added to list ca 25 October 1980]

Brian Smith
c/o Terry Winograd
Xerox PARC
3333 Coyote Hill Road
Palo Alto, CA 9430?
	[BSMITH@BBNG]

Louis Steinberg
Dept. of Computer Science
Hill Center, Busch Campus
Rutgers University
New Brumswick, NJ 08903

Carroll Johnson
Chemistry Division
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Post Offic Box X
Oak Ridge, TN 37830
	[CJOHNSON@SUMEX]

Rick Hayes-Roth
The RAND Corporation
1700 Main Street
Santa Monica, CA 90406
	[RICK@RAND-AI]

Dan Gorlin
The RAND Corporation
1700 Main Street
Santa Monica, CA 90406
	[GORLIN@RAND-AI]

Steve Klein
USC/Information Science Institute
4676 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90291
	[SKLEIN@ISIB]

Tom Pressburger
System Control Incorporated
1801 Page Mill
Palo Alto, CA 94304
	[PRESSBURGER@SCI]

Susan Angebranndt
System Control Incorporated
1801 Page Mill
Palo Alto, CA 94304
	[SUE@SCI]

	[New snail mail addresses, ca 31-Oct-80]

Bob Bechtel
Code 8242
Naval Ocean Systems Center
San Diego, CA  92152
	[RBECHTAL@BBNA]

Professor W.J. Minkowycz
Dr. A. Sharma
University of Illinois at Chicago Circle
College of Engineering
Box 4348
Chicago, Illinois  90980

Larry Hines
Computer Science Department
University of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712
	[ATP.HINES@UTEXAS-20]

Stan Rosenschein
SRI International
	[STAN@SRI-KL]
New additions (after 3-Feb-81)
∂25-Mar-81  1714	DAVE at RAND-AI 	Re: Several comments   
Russ,

Thanks for the extra information on RLL, and yes, please add my name
to the RLL bulletin board.  Hope to see you soon.

					dave
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∂06-Mar-81  1716	TKEHLER at BBNA 	RLL Bulliten Distribution L}ist  
Please put me on the list.
--Tom
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Sean McLinden
INTERNIST Project
? Pittsburgh ?
	[STUDENT1@SUMEX]

New additions (after 3-Nov-80)
Ron BRACHMAN
10 Moulton Street
Cambridge, MA  02238
	[RBRACHMAN@BBND]

Carroll Johnson
	[CJOHNSON@SUMEX]

BALZER@ISIB, ALAN@ISIB, PLONDON@ISIB, ERMAN@ISIB

STT@SAIL
∂04-Nov-80  0543	RBRACHMAN at BBND 	RLL Mailing List

Russ,
Would you put me on the aforementioned mailing list?  Thanks,
Ron (RBrachmcn@BBND).

Mailed to RBRACHMAN@BBND 18:23 4-Nov-80
Done
Ron,

I've  added  you  on   the  list,  and  have   sent  you  the  two   prior
communications.  You'll note  I initiated both  of them -  this is NOT  by
design.  Please feel free to  break the ice, by contributing  suggestions,
advice, comments or whatever to this forum.

Also, let me  know if  you'd like  a copy of  either of  the RLL-1  memos.
"RLL-1:  A Representation Language  Language" (HPP-80-9) presents first  a
description of what (I think)  a representation language language is,  and
proceeds to overview  our particular implementation.   "Details of  RLL-1"
(HPP-80-23) is low  level specifics  ("the dirt", a  friend suggested)  of
this system, as it stands now.

	Russ

∂07-Nov-80  0738	Cjohnson@SUMEX-AIM 	RLL Bulletin Board  
Date:  7 Nov 1980 0728-PST
From: Cjohnson@SUMEX-AIM
Subject: RLL Bulletin Board
To:   RDG@SU-AI
cc:   CJohnson

Russ:
     Yes, please do add my name to the RLL mailing list.  I assume
the mode is computer mail and my SUMEX address is CJohnson,  
If US mail is also used my whois address is valid.

     I just received the RLL  extension document, Thanks
for sending it to me.
Best wishes
Carroll 
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∂07-Nov-80  1719	BALZER at USC-ISIB 	Re: RLL (Virtual) Bulletin Board   
Date:  7 Nov 1980 1719-PST
From: BALZER at USC-ISIB
Subject: Re: RLL (Virtual) Bulletin Board 
To:   RDG at SU-AI

In response to your message sent  21 Oct 1980 1728-PDT

RUSS,
PLEASE ADD ME,ALAN@ISIB(ALAN KAY),PLONDON@ISIB(PHIL LONDON), AND
ERMAN@ISIB(LEE ERMAN) TO THE RLL MAILING LIST.

THANKS,
BOB
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Mailed to LIS, STEINBERG@RUTGERS 15:5 21-Nov
Mail Address
Lou
	The RLL-1 memo I (snail) mailed to you at Rutgers just came back,
with an addressee unknown message.
Where exactly are you located?
Russ
∂24-Nov-80  0756	STEINBERG at RUTGERS 	Re: Mail Address  
Date: 24 Nov 1980 1057-EST
From: STEINBERG at RUTGERS
Subject: Re: Mail Address  
To: RDG at SU-AI, LIS at SU-AI
cc: STEINBERG at RUTGERS
In-Reply-To: Your message of 21-Nov-80 1834-EST

My address should be
Louis Steinberg
Dept. of Computer Science
Hill Center, Busch Campus
Rutgers University
New Brumswick, NJ 08903

But our campus mail system is very poor and stuff often gets lost or
misdirected.  If that was the address you used before, just try it again.
Thanks.  (And I'm sorry for the hassle - Rutgers administrative services
have some VERY major problems.)
		Lou
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	Requests for Copies of RLL / MRS

9 ->

23 ->

DBL&MRG's paper  ->
TTP

Primer for MRS ->
TTP
	Requests filled
(9)
Stan Rosenschein
RBRACHMAN@BBND

(23)
Rick Hayes-Roth
RBRACHMAN@BBND
KANDT at USC-ECL
Knaus, Rodger (by letter 6-Mar-81)

Dr. Alan V. Lemmon
The MITRE Corporation
MITRE C3 Divison
Washington C3 Operations
1820 Dolley Madison Boulevard
McLean, Virginia  22102

∂31-Oct-80  1804	RICK at RAND-AI 	Re: ∂20-Oct-80  1258	RDG  	RLL Bulletin Board   
Date: 31 Oct 1980 1225-PST
From: RICK at RAND-AI
Subject: Re: ∂20-Oct-80  1258	RDG  	RLL Bulletin Board   
To: RDG at SU-AI, henry at RAND-AI, gorlin at RAND-AI, klahr at RAND-AI,
To: wescourt at RAND-AI, "@RLL.DIS[RDG,DBL]" at SU-AI
In-Reply-To: Your message of 31-Oct-80 1128-PST

Russ:
	Please send me a copy of hpp-80-23.
thanks,  rick
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∂05-Nov-80  0548	RBRACHMAN at BBND 	Re: Done   

Sure, why don't you send them to me (10 Moulton Street, Cambridge,
MA  02238).  Thanks

∂05-Nov-80  1712	KANDT at USC-ECL 	HPP-80-23   
Date:  5 NOV 1980 1711-PST
From: KANDT at USC-ECL
Subject: HPP-80-23
To:   RDG at SAIL

Russ -- Please send me a copy of "The Details of RLL-1 (HPP-80-23)."
Thanks.

	Kirk Kandt
	Hughes Research Laboratories
	3011 Malibu Canyon Road
	Malibu, California 90265
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		Requests for RLL System
∂2 Feb 1981 2205-PST  Student1 		RLL-1
To:   GREINER


    I have just finished your "working paper" on RLL-1 and would be interested
in learning more about it and, perhaps, experimenting with it as it may be
applied to a project on which I am working. Briefly, I am building a Neuro-
anatomy/Anatomy knowledge base which I hope to be able to use as a reference
for the INTERNIST programs as well as for the basis of a Neurological Dia-
gnosis and teaching package. The relational aspects of functional neuro-
anatomy and the limitations of the current system (which utilizes a series
of related hashfiles), have prompted me to look to see how others have
tackled the problems of knowledge base management. To this end, I have
already contacted Mark Stefik about the UNITS package, and while exploring
that area, I came across your paper. If you could direct me to sources
of additional information on RLL-1 I would greatly appreciate it. I would
also, of course, be interested in current applications of RLL-1 some of
which you mentioned in the paper.

Thanks for your time.

Sean McLinden
<STUDENT1>@SUMEX-AIM
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∂Mailed to STUDENT1@SUMEX-AIM, (CC CSD.LENAT@SCORE) 16:29 4-Feb
Use of RLL-1
I am both impressed, and sympathetic, that you were able to plow thru that
memo.  As you  may have realized,  it was  intended more to  drive home  a
point than to serve as a guide to prospective RLL-1 users.  In particular,
it wasn't much in  the way of  a primer, or even  reference guide to  this
system.  And unfortunately, neither of these essential manuals now exist.

Despite their absense, and RLL-1's current immaturity, I would still  like
to see RLL-1 in use -- it is  my hope that such applications will help  us
to both design and upgrade RLL-1, by providing the strains needed to  keep
us from building too much, or too little, into the released system.

So much for overhead.  In terms of things I can do now:
(1) I will add you  to the distribution list  for the RLL Bulletin  Board,
and will soon forward to you its two prior messages.
(2) There is a companion memo, containing all sorts of (increasingly  more
dated) low level  stuff about  our actual implementation:  "The Detail  of
RLL-1", HPP-80-23.  I'd be glad to send you a copy, if you are  interested
in struggling  thru the  real guts  of  this system.   Just send  me  your
snail-mail address.
(3) On this theme,  is there any literature  I should read, to  familarize
myself with your project?

Let me ask  now what your  time frame is  -- when will  you have data  you
actually wish to enter  into some system?   Do you have  any feel for  how
this information should be structured,  or know what sorts of  inferencing
you anticipate performing on this data?

(One final bit of propaganda:  One of RLL's real strong points is the fact
that that last question is  meaningful.  Other systems simply present  the
specification required of your data,  augmented with an apology that  that
representation language is inapplicable for your task unless your task can
be molded into  that framework.  RLL  takes another tack  -- that you  the
user should be allowed to select and design the interface you wish.)

Enough hard sell.  Please let me know if I can be of any future assistance.
	Russ Greiner
	[RDG @ SAIL]
			********			********
∂Date:  3 Sep 1980 1146-PDT Cjohnson RRL Oil-Spills code
To:   Lenat
cc:   Greiner, CJohnson

Doug,

     It was great seeing you again at the Expert Systems Workshop.
Is there  a possibility that the Spills code is in good enough
shape that I can play with it a little on SUMEX?  This would be
the ideal time for me to try understanding the RLL system.

Best wishes
Carroll
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Mailed to RICK@RAND-AI, STEFIK@PARC, BALZER@USC-ISIE, STAN (ROSHENSCHEIN)@SRI-KL
 17:08 21-Oct-80
KAIHARA@SUMEX, CJOHNSON@SUMEX on 18:09 4-November-80
RLL (Virtual) Bulletin Board
Carroll:
     There now exists a RLL  mailing list, intended for interested  people
to  share   their  views/apprehensions,   etc,   on  topics   related   to
representation language languages.  Would you like your name added to this
list?  If so, what address should we  use?  Is there anyone else you  know
who should be added?
	Russ